Bosch 800 Series VeroCafe vs Jura E4

Q: Is the 800 Series VeroCafe better than the E4?

It depends on your priorities. The Bosch 800 Series VeroCafe excels for users who want Home Connect smart features to order from your phone, while the Jura E4 is the better choice if you prioritize pure espresso performance without paying for milk features.

Q: How do the grinders compare?

The 800 Series VeroCafe uses a Ceramic, whereas the E4 features a Steel Conical. While both are high-quality internal systems, they are sealed components. To prevent clogging and avoid expensive repairs, we strongly recommend using non-oily, medium-roast beans in both machines.

Q: Which machine is easier to clean?

The 800 Series VeroCafe uses a Removable brew group, while the E4 uses a Fixed system. Generally, removable groups (like DeLonghi) allow for manual rinsing under a tap, while fixed groups (like Jura) rely on automated tablet cleaning cycles.

Buy the 800 Series VeroCafe if you:

Want smart home integration with Bosch's Home Connect app.
Prefer a ceramic grinder for quieter operation.
Want a removable brew group for thorough manual cleaning.

Buy the E4 if you:

Drink strictly espresso or black coffee.
Don't want to pay for a milk system you won't use.
Prefer a fixed brew group that cleans itself automatically.

Expert Verdict

"Choose the 800 Series VeroCafe if you prioritize Home Connect smart features to order from your phone. Pick the E4 if pure espresso performance without paying for milk features matters more to you."

Tale of the Tape

Feature	800 Series VeroCafe	E4
Why Buy This?	Home Connect smart features to order from your phone	pure espresso performance without paying for milk features
Interface	LCD Color	Touch Buttons with symbol display
Milk System	Auto Tube	None
Drink Variety	15 Drinks	5 Drinks
User Profiles	0	0
Grinder	Ceramic	Steel Conical
Water Tank	81 oz	64 oz
Bean Hopper	10.5 oz	10 oz
Brew Group	Removable	Fixed
Dimensions	11x18x15	11x17.6x13.8
Connectivity	Yes	Yes
Special Feature	Home Connect	Espresso Only Focus

Critical Maintenance Warning

Don't Ruin Your New Investment

Regardless of which machine you choose, both rely on internal grinders that are sensitive to oily beans. To keep your Bosch or Jura out of the repair shop, stick to these non-oily selections.

Finally, a decaf that produces actual crema. I serve this to guests and they never know it's decaf. Safe for your grinder too.

Lavazza Dek (Decaf)

Medium roast decaffeinated via natural water process.

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A Canadian legend. Since it is a Medium roast, it is much safer for your machine than their other dark roasts (which are too oily).

Kicking Horse Cliff Hanger

Silky, complex, and wild. Fairtrade and Organic.

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The sweetest of the bunch. If you find espresso too bitter, switch to this. It has a very smooth, non-aggressive finish.

Lavazza Qualita Oro

Sweet and aromatic with floral notes. 100% Arabica.

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Frequently Asked Questions

Is the 800 Series VeroCafe better than the E4? ▼

It depends on your priorities. The Bosch 800 Series VeroCafe excels for users who want Home Connect smart features to order from your phone, while the Jura E4 is the better choice if you prioritize pure espresso performance without paying for milk features.

How do the grinders compare? ▼

The 800 Series VeroCafe uses a Ceramic, whereas the E4 features a Steel Conical. While both are high-quality internal systems, they are sealed components. To prevent clogging and avoid expensive repairs, we strongly recommend using non-oily, medium-roast beans in both machines.

Which machine is easier to clean? ▼

The 800 Series VeroCafe uses a Removable brew group, while the E4 uses a Fixed system. Generally, removable groups (like DeLonghi) allow for manual rinsing under a tap, while fixed groups (like Jura) rely on automated tablet cleaning cycles.